Curious About Ben Moments

I am noticing the trend of people saying that Marcus and Henry are more "relaxed" with Ed than in later episodes with Ben and that Ben would often derail the energy or the direction of the show. Don't get me wrong, I have always loved Ed's humor since the roundtable days and think he's a great addition, but I can't tell if this prevailing narrative is based on huffing copium. I wanted to ask if anyone had specific moments in mind or episodes I can go back and listen to that exemplify the "derailing" or "on edge" feeling with Ben? Being comically exasperated with Ben was part of the shtick from my perspective, so I want to see some evidence from the show itself with fresh eyes, er, ears or else it can seem a bit like Aesop's sour grapes.